I sort of thought that would probably have been the case. That's so sad. Thanks, Undercover.
Btw, just a personal opinion, but I think some JWs are the most judgmental people I have ever met.
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Disgusting
by Vegas Girl ini was reading the find whitney heichel page of fb and the moderator has posted info about another missing girl in oregon (non-jw) well, apparantley this missing girl has some sort of a past or something and people are getting on the site (mostly jw's) and making rude remarks about this girl has a bad past and that it's prob her fault.
i can't fathom how they can get on there after the horrible tragedy of whitney and yet because this other missing girl is not jw somehow now they attach fault to her going missing.
this is exactly why i can't deal with jw's.
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Disgusting
by Vegas Girl ini was reading the find whitney heichel page of fb and the moderator has posted info about another missing girl in oregon (non-jw) well, apparantley this missing girl has some sort of a past or something and people are getting on the site (mostly jw's) and making rude remarks about this girl has a bad past and that it's prob her fault.
i can't fathom how they can get on there after the horrible tragedy of whitney and yet because this other missing girl is not jw somehow now they attach fault to her going missing.
this is exactly why i can't deal with jw's.
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That is sad, but It made me wonder that if a similar situation were to occur except the victim lived, and the victim went to the police, admitted sexual assault (forced to perform oral sex), and the offender denied it, would the victim then be subject to some type of 'punishment' by the WT if there was no evidence to support her claim legally? I mean, she would have admitted it to police thus making a confession. This is totally hypothetical. Interesting thought, though...
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Are the Adventists looking to attract downtrodden JW's?
by donny insorry if anyone has already posted on this but i did not see anything related in the few pages of active topics i checked.. last saturday i went to an oil change facilty and one of their perks is they give you a copy of the current usa today while you wait in your car.
on page 8a is a full page ad titled "liberty of conscience threatened.... a national sunday law will be established as the mark of the beast.".
the article then goes on a typical adventist rant about how saturday, not sunday, is the real sabbath established by god.
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Having worked with a devout SAD for a few years, I can tell you that they still claim to follow Old Testment laws/rules, or some of them, anyway. No pork. Jewish Holidays (as has been mentioned). Things like that. She took their Sabbath very seriously. No tv or anything from Friday sun down to Saturday sun down.
Also, I had a phychiarist a few years back that told me there are more people right now turning to these very restrictive religions with a lot of rules than ever before. Of course, he was Amish. Yes, Amish.
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Survey: Who here is an atheist? Who here still believes in God?
by Christ Alone ini just wanted to take a survey.
let's not let this get into the same old same old debate of atheism vs belief.
just respond with "atheist" or "believer" or "maybe god exists".
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I believe in God. Right now anyway.
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My Introduction
by Left in the Cold ini have posted on here a little, and i thought i should probably introduce myself the best i can right now.
i stumbled upon this site and told my sister about it.
then, sometime later she started discussing things with me that's she has seen or read (she's in therapy, as well, which probably has made her kind of rethink things).
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Thank you, everyone. It's very nice to be able to talk to people who understand. I thought after being reinstated that I would move to a different part of the state I'm in. I have that move already planned for early spring to go back to school. Just go off the radar, so to speak.
How did I get disfellowshipped twice? You guys know the JW answer to that one. I wasn't repentant enough, right?
I haven't made my mind up for certain about reinstatement. Your comments on the subject are very thought provoking. My sister says the same thing. I am still thinking on it.
I look very forward to meeting many of you on here. Thank you again for your support. Very much.
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My Introduction
by Left in the Cold ini have posted on here a little, and i thought i should probably introduce myself the best i can right now.
i stumbled upon this site and told my sister about it.
then, sometime later she started discussing things with me that's she has seen or read (she's in therapy, as well, which probably has made her kind of rethink things).
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Hi Everyone. I have posted on here a little, and I thought I should probably introduce myself the best I can right now. I stumbled upon this site and told my sister about it. Then, sometime later she started discussing things with me that's she has seen or read (she's in therapy, as well, which probably has made her kind of rethink things). We were born ins. I am currently df'd. I am trying to get reinstated, but my heart is not in it. I have some older friends I want to help when the time comes that they may need it. They would accept me as inactive but not df'd. There are very personal issues involved in this that I'd rather not go into, but suffice it to say, I'm trying due to the "friends & family" reason.
My marriage fell apart earlier this year and that devastated me. I have struggled with deep depression over this to the point of hospitalization earlier this summer. Like a lot of former (and current) JW's, I have anxiety disorders and all that good stuff.
I'm female, mid thirties, and still very confused. I don't believe the GB has the abilities they are given credit for having. In fact, I can't really see as they're needed at all. Being on the outside as a df'd one (twice) has made me question many things. I feel like I have the potential to be free of all the feelings of impending doom, never being good enough, constant guilt, and so on. But it hasn't happened over night, and I think that's probably normal especially for a 'born in'. So most days I try to keep my head above the water as far as the depression. I am being treated for it. And I've been doing research for myself and trying to understand things that I never thought to question before. I get no support emotionally from any JW, and I have found much more support here than I ever thought. Many things have changed and are changing for me right now. My head kind of spins at times. But this is my 'little' story, and I'm so glad there are ones here who care and listen and understand. I think, in the end, that's all most of us want. Btw, my spelling is atrocious. And I apologize in advance for future spelling errors. :)
Thanks
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How Are You Treated When JWs See You?
by minimus indo they talk to you, ignore you, love bomb you??
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Well, being df'd you can guess. But interestingly, about a year ago (before I really started questioning things) I had a real heart to heart discussion with two elders. They were very kind, one in particular. A few days later I saw him at a local venue with his wife and he looked at me a smiled really big, but then I think he must have remembered who I was so he averted his eyes and kind of turned away. I was thinking how utterly disfellowshipping goes against human nature as we are meant to be social creatures. Idk. I just never forgot the sudden change in his face...
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About what one thing do you find yourself being a real SNOB?
by Terry inyou know, to fit in....to be a part of our own family or group and not be a total nerd or contrarian.. we hold our tongue.
we smile and nod.. but, then....there is at least one thing we just can't go along with because it is too important.. why?
because we are a total snob.
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I should mention that in being snobby about clothing and shoes one does not have to spend a great deal of money. Thrift stores, eBay, and other places are Awsome! Part of the fun is the find. I never spend more than $25-30 on an outfit. That's why I find it awful that others don't put forth any effort to wear nicer things. A well made Italian shoe is heaven. A shame to miss out on that experience. Or a good fitting, well cut garment.
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About what one thing do you find yourself being a real SNOB?
by Terry inyou know, to fit in....to be a part of our own family or group and not be a total nerd or contrarian.. we hold our tongue.
we smile and nod.. but, then....there is at least one thing we just can't go along with because it is too important.. why?
because we are a total snob.
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Clothing/Shoes. I have tried so hard not to be, but I'm a snob when it comes to that. I've thought about it. I don't know why I feel superior to those who dress cheaply, but I do. I can't stand cheapness when it comes to fashion. I judge. I don't want to, but I do. I'm being honest. It drives me nuts.
Poetry, too. But I believe you said "one thing".
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Lester Kite Who Was Humiliated,Character Tarnished, States During A Secret JC Hearing, Rude Watchtower Elders Mercilessly Insulted His Wife
by Scott77 in"...the secret hearings took place over two weekends in the latter part of 1992 and the committee consisted of the chairman, geoff woodfield (a family friend and a generally decent man); rensford ming (a quiet guy of jamaican origin, also a decent man); and dave churchill and stan rogers, both company men who humiliated me and assassinated my character.
they both were downright rude and insulting to my wife.
all elders, with the exception of woodfield were appointed from neighboring congregations.
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Some elders have been kind to me in JC meetings, and some have been very rude. At one of my last meetings, I finally had enough of being compared to King David and his adultery and the mercy Jehovah showed King David by not killing him as he should have been under Jewish law. I asked them to please stop comparing me to a man that God chose and annointed to rule his people on earth. And I told them that of course King David hadn't been put to death because Soloman hadn't been conceived yet, and King David needed to be alive for that to happen for the sake of Jesus' bloodline. After that, there really wasn't much left to say there.
But by far the worse thing ever done to me at a JC meeting was when the elders were done talking to me, they called my then husband in and the four of them had a pow-wow. On the way home, I asked my husband what they were talking about back there. He said he was told not to tell me. We're divorced now.